tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post2005598227464355707..comments2024-01-30T11:17:26.526-08:00Comments on Adult Children Of Alcoholics/ ACAs ACOAs ACODFs Blog: Step 1: We Admitted We Were PowerlessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-62326489970461721732010-04-19T18:42:11.010-07:002010-04-19T18:42:11.010-07:00I personally find the ACA Big Red Book a bit contr...I personally find the ACA Big Red Book a bit controlling in itself for me. Way too many "we" statements.<br /><br />It is also easy to tell it was written by many different authors that did not quite flow together on definitions Example: Inner Child<br /><br />One section says our Inner Child is our True Self and connection to God. Another section says to leave our Inner Child home at sparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-38038959829538492292010-04-18T08:49:48.373-07:002010-04-18T08:49:48.373-07:00Thank you for posting Tony A.'s adaptation of ...Thank you for posting Tony A.'s adaptation of the steps. I can see how they will inform and compliment my ACA step-work. Yes, the approach in ACA's big book is very different than in AA. I can see value in and have benefitted from both.<br /><br />I've been in AA 33 years and worked in the field profesionally for 15. I've seen the concept of powerlessness get batted around & Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-55464537340090153512010-04-10T09:10:39.532-07:002010-04-10T09:10:39.532-07:00Unfortunately, the 12 step videos are not availabl...Unfortunately, the 12 step videos are not available as MP3 downloads here. There may be programs that convert them, you can do a search on Google for them. <br /><br />Or if you have an audio program in your computer such as Garageband or Audacity, you may be record the audio from these videos using your computer's built in speakers and microphone or by connecting an auxiliary computer mic Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-54076641325286786802010-04-10T05:31:20.872-07:002010-04-10T05:31:20.872-07:00My comment is a question to the videos of the 12 s...My comment is a question to the videos of the 12 steps. Are they available as MP3 down loads? If not, will they become available as MP3 down loads at some time. I find them to be helpful in my recovery journey and would like to have access to them on my Ipod.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-51564223041054202052010-04-04T12:41:36.416-07:002010-04-04T12:41:36.416-07:00amen and amen brother! I have been in and out of ...amen and amen brother! I have been in and out of recovery meetings for 30 years and never felt peaceful about doing steps 4-9. I was always scouring my soul for "wrongs" I did to my very abusive mother and the sick friends/churches and sponsors I chose who blamed me for my "character defects." Finally, I realize I am not ready to look at my character defects. Until I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-8158827181701024432010-02-22T09:09:45.278-08:002010-02-22T09:09:45.278-08:00Sparky,
Developing trust will take some time as w...Sparky,<br /><br />Developing trust will take some time as will trusting in the initative to take action. This is by far the only one that we work 100% of the time. The rest are tended to a laundry list of ideas. A means rather than a destination, in other words a starting point. Grandest thoughts are out to you who may think they have a solution. <br /><br />ToonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-82126828436853860892010-02-19T11:44:35.224-08:002010-02-19T11:44:35.224-08:00Sparky,
I basically aid myself by becoming aware o...Sparky,<br />I basically aid myself by becoming aware of putting the cart before the horse. That said, as a flower unfolds it takes nourishment and able sunshine in order to become. One is sure that the true path is one of awareness. Emily D. wrote "as freezing persons recollect the snow, first chill, then stupor, the the letting go. This in turn becomes the scripture that we are reeling Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-45500770836221351572010-02-10T07:59:50.789-08:002010-02-10T07:59:50.789-08:00Being a member of both I believe it is important t...Being a member of both I believe it is important to mention that the way of working the 12 Steps in ACA is quite different than in AA, in my opinion.<br />For example in the 4th step the focus is much on looking at my defects of character, on what I have done wrong. In ACA instead we are trying to find how what our families did has harmed us, and look at our parents charcter defects because we Memuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000813607848093819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-55359293469956795232010-01-25T08:42:12.194-08:002010-01-25T08:42:12.194-08:00"If a person was truly powerless over their a...<i>"If a person was truly powerless over their addictions, how would anyone volunteer to join a program to quit?"</i><br /><br />That is precisely why they join. If you weren't powerless over your addictions and dysfunctions, why would you continue to indulge in them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-15249242170813428062010-01-21T07:34:31.759-08:002010-01-21T07:34:31.759-08:00I believe that the powerless concept is the most d...I believe that the powerless concept is the most damaging of all AA beliefs. If a person was truly powerless over their addictions, how would anyone volunteer to join a program to quit?<br /><br />It also invites relapse, along with the other AA concepts of having a life-long disease and that only God can remove the desire to drink on a day by day basis. That last one has people living in fear.<raysnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14445677066536840188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-72716898522062141092010-01-18T10:47:00.568-08:002010-01-18T10:47:00.568-08:00Here is an excerpt from the GSO website at http://...Here is an excerpt from the GSO website at http://www.aa.org: <br />"Why Alcoholics Anonymous Is "Anonymous"<br /><br />"Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of A.A. It disciplines the Fellowship to govern itself by principles rather than personalities. We are a society of peers.<br /><br /> We strive to make known our program of recovery, not individuals who participate in sparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-24864719613011936762010-01-18T10:27:54.333-08:002010-01-18T10:27:54.333-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.sparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-89369120804007861032010-01-18T10:27:03.780-08:002010-01-18T10:27:03.780-08:00As for ACA and ACA Step's I like Tony's al...As for ACA and ACA Step's I like Tony's alot better, although step one could be more inclusive. Actually in this day and age perhaps there needs to more inclusion of a blend including drugs and addictions too and stay away from the word alcohol all together, which may exclude LOTS of people by simply listingalcohol first.<br /><br />I did attend a Nar-anon meeting last year for the firstsparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-89854781096315031732010-01-18T09:52:24.899-08:002010-01-18T09:52:24.899-08:00I have always interpreted "we" as the ro...I have always interpreted "we" as the royal "we"- as in official 12 step groups, service centers and organizations. Hence it is the "public relations policy" of "AA" or "ACA" or "NA", etc. as entities to maintain personal anonymity. Probably so that no one person becomes the official spokesperson or authority for the organization as a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-63539331268405188232010-01-18T08:09:31.418-08:002010-01-18T08:09:31.418-08:00Hi again,
I have been thinking about Tradition El...Hi again,<br /><br />I have been thinking about Tradition Eleven:<br /><br />Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, T.V. and films. <br /><br />Can we even safely talk about the 12 step fellowships,steps or any part of it "at the level of film" without some how affiliating ourselves,even if sparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-20900281418712748542010-01-13T09:16:13.215-08:002010-01-13T09:16:13.215-08:00Thanks,
The Twelve Step we created in Bill W.'...Thanks,<br /><br />The Twelve Step we created in Bill W.'s basement in 30 minutes, according to the 1953 Grapevine Article.<br /><br />I feel what N.A. termed as "strong personalities" is fitting here. In my study of 12 step history, I feel Bill W. H.P. Love him was a sick narcissist, as I have some of that myself. Studying all this helps my recovery. Understanding how Bill created sparkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280489703794642840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221101278797301003.post-43919722592760072882010-01-12T11:22:46.221-08:002010-01-12T11:22:46.221-08:00Hi C--A powerful video and I thank you for it. As ...Hi C--A powerful video and I thank you for it. As a child growing up in a dysfunctional, alcoholic home, I was powerless to change my parents' behavior or stop the fighting. For me, I coped by developing OCD, rather than self-medicating to deal with the intense anger and rage I felt but couldn't express due to the fear it would ignite my parents. Unfortunately, though I'm far removed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com